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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 2:50 pm    Post subject: Raid Selection?? Reply with quote

Ok im not gonna act like i know all and know whats going on behind scenes here but personally i think the raid selection can do better. First of all, the UF "raid" of group content. Think 3 weeks is enough of this. Its group content for a reason. Yes the upgraded gear is nice and new spells is good too, maybe a few more items than in a raid night im not sure since I havent been able to make a raid for one of these yet BUT raid equip that we can get is still better for the most part than the group gear and with 2 targets a night average 3 drops per thats 6 raid items and rk3 spells to boot. Just my opinion on these but hey if they upgrades have been worth more than raid drops would be keep doing it i just dont c it sorry.

Next is our targets were doing. We done bb and queen A LOT lately and havent tried kith since...november?? Crystal core i havent done although it was said it was tried once or twice thats not enough. Fos we only tried a couple times also and with all these upgrades and good turnouts there is no reason we cant knock all these out. Now i dont known which raids you need to beat to unlock the Rk3 spells from Zeb not sure if there tower or the lower tiers i have no idea and cant really find out ive looked a couple times.

We beat a kora raid granted its probably not the hardest but its still a kora raid why cant we get these other ones done. Fail one night try again the next night while event is still fresh and can adapte and hopefully have a lot of the same people so we on the same page. Nothing to me is more gratifying than taking down new targets/events in all the years ive played on eq. Who remembers fear when it was a place u could lose enough xp to not even be able to get back in and lose all that work? But when you win its like we just owned that $h&t. Ring of Vulak anyone? Nother fun raid that not a lot of people did but after a couple hours of slaying all those dragons it was uber loots and crazy fun event.

Just my opinions here and yeh its a bit of a rant but we already stopped SoF raids and i wanted to badly to do crystallos just because it looks hard and nothing better than taking down a tough event for the first time and putin it to farm
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Raid Selection?? Reply with quote

Sendalor wrote:
I havent been able to make a raid for one of these yet BUT raid equip that we can get is still better for the most part than the group gear

You should probably go on one to see for yourself. I was there last night, and it was more loot than we've had on any raid night. I think we plan to continue, but just for Wednesday night. The other 3 nights will be SoD raids.

Here are some examples, from last night.

2-3 spell drops. We had 2 wrist, 1 hat and 1 chest clay.

Regla's Pick
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO TRADE
Slot: RANGE
Charges: Unlimited
AC: 68
STR: +30+3 DEX: +25+8 STA: +29+5 CHA: +16+3 WIS: +27+2 INT: +35+2 AGI: +27+6 HP: +903 MANA: +883 ENDUR: +883
SV FIRE: +17 SV DISEASE: +30 SV COLD: +39 SV MAGIC: +36 SV POISON: +28
Combat Effects: +2 Shielding: +1% Spell Shield: +2% Avoidance: +1 Accuracy: +5 Stun Resist: +3% Strikethrough: +1% DoT Shielding: +1% Attack: +26 HP Regen: +1 Mana Regeneration: +4 Damage Shield: +2 Clairvoyance: 11 Spell Dmg: 7 Dmg Shld Mit: 1 Heal Amount: 5
Recommended level of 85. Required level of 83.
Effect: Prismatic Ward I (Any Slot/Can Equip, Casting Time: 1.5)
Effect: Improved Dodge V (Worn, Casting Time: Instant)
WT: 1.2 Size: SMALL
Class: ALL
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type 7 (General: Group)
Slot 2, Type 3 (General: Spell Effect)


Merl's Problem Solver
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO TRADE
Slot: PRIMARY
Skill: 2H Blunt Atk Delay: 36
DMG: 136 Dmg Bonus: 68 AC: 54
Cold DMG: 1
STR: +48 DEX: +50 STA: +45 CHA: +35 WIS: +52 INT: +47 AGI: +49 HP: +1565 MANA: +1505 ENDUR: +1505
SV FIRE: +53 SV DISEASE: +53 SV COLD: +57 SV MAGIC: +48 SV POISON: +53
Combat Effects: +8 Shielding: +2% Spell Shield: +2% Avoidance: +7 Accuracy: +8 Stun Resist: +2% Strikethrough: +2% DoT Shielding: +2% Attack: +37 HP Regen: +5 Mana Regeneration: +4 Damage Shield: +3 Clairvoyance: 19 Spell Dmg: 8 Dmg Shld Mit: 1 Heal Amount: 9
Recommended level of 85. Required level of 83.
Effect: Freezing Strike V (Combat, Casting Time: Instant)
WT: 4.1 Size: LARGE
Class: WAR PAL RNG SHD MNK BST BER
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type 4 (Weapon: General)


Many-Pocketed Pouch
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO TRADE
Slot: RANGE
Charges: Unlimited
AC: 66
STR: +34 DEX: +34 STA: +24 CHA: +18 WIS: +22 INT: +28 AGI: +33 HP: +871 MANA: +864 ENDUR: +864
SV FIRE: +29 SV DISEASE: +15 SV COLD: +28 SV MAGIC: +29 SV POISON: +30
Combat Effects: +4 Shielding: +1% Spell Shield: +1% Avoidance: +4 Accuracy: +6 Stun Resist: +1% Strikethrough: +1% DoT Shielding: +1% Attack: +21 HP Regen: +3 Mana Regeneration: +2 Damage Shield: +2 Clairvoyance: 12 Spell Dmg: 6 Dmg Shld Mit: 1 Heal Amount: 6
Recommended level of 85. Required level of 83.
Effect: Summon Clay-Bladed Dagger (Any Slot/Can Equip, Casting Time: 2.0)
Recast Delay: 5 seconds, Recast Type: -1
Effect: Improved Dodge V (Worn, Casting Time: Instant)
Recast Delay: 5 seconds, Recast Type: -1
WT: 1.5 Size: SMALL
Class: WAR PAL RNG SHD MNK BRD ROG BST BER
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type 7 (General: Group)


Trag's Digger
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO TRADE
Slot: PRIMARY SECONDARY
Skill: 1H Blunt Atk Delay: 24
DMG: 60 Dmg Bonus: 20 AC: 29
STR: +26 DEX: +25 STA: +23 CHA: +27 WIS: +26 INT: +14 AGI: +27 HP: +880 MANA: +875 ENDUR: +875
SV FIRE: +26 SV DISEASE: +27 SV COLD: +33 SV MAGIC: +32 SV POISON: +32
Combat Effects: +4 Shielding: +1% Spell Shield: +1% Avoidance: +4 Accuracy: +5 Stun Resist: +1% Strikethrough: +1% DoT Shielding: +1% Attack: +28 HP Regen: +3 Mana Regeneration: +2 Damage Shield: +1 Clairvoyance: 12 Spell Dmg: 4 Dmg Shld Mit: 1 Heal Amount: 6
Recommended level of 85. Required level of 83.
Effect: Freezing Strike IV (Combat, Casting Time: Instant)
WT: 1.2 Size: MEDIUM
Class: WAR RNG MNK BRD ROG BST
Race: ALL except ERU HIE
Slot 1, Type 4 (Weapon: General)


Vermilionite Underbead
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO TRADE
Slot: EAR
Charges: Unlimited
AC: 61
STR: +41+3 DEX: +36+2 STA: +18+4 CHA: +37+2 WIS: +9+9 INT: +17+9 AGI: +31+7 HP: +888 MANA: +863 ENDUR: +863
SV FIRE: +35 SV DISEASE: +40 SV COLD: +25 SV MAGIC: +16 SV POISON: +35
Combat Effects: +5 Shielding: +2% Spell Shield: +1% Avoidance: +2 Accuracy: +9 Stun Resist: +2% DoT Shielding: +2% Attack: +15 HP Regen: +4 Mana Regeneration: +2 Damage Shield: +2 Clairvoyance: 12 Spell Dmg: 7 Dmg Shld Mit: 1 Heal Amount: 6
Recommended level of 85. Required level of 83.
Effect: Knowledge of the Past II (Any Slot/Can Equip, Casting Time: 2.0)
Effect: Sharpshooting VI (Worn, Casting Time: Instant)
Focus: Spite of the Bellikos
WT: 0.3 Size: TINY
Class: ALL except WAR MNK ROG BER
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type 7 (General: Group)
Slot 2, Type 3 (General: Spell Effect)


Incorruptible Tear
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO TRADE AUGMENTATION
Augmentation type: 7 8
Slot: HEAD FACE EAR NECK SHOULDERS ARMS BACK WRIST HANDS FINGER CHEST LEGS FEET WAIST
AC: 22
HP: +90 MANA: +95 ENDUR: +95
SV CORRUPTION: +15
DoT Shielding: +1%
Recommended level of 85. Required level of 83.
WT: 0.0 Size: TINY
Class: ALL
Race: ALL


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Raid Selection?? Reply with quote

Sendalor wrote:
We beat a kora raid granted its probably not the hardest but its still a kora raid why cant we get these other ones done.


It's on the to-do list, didn't you read the post?

http://www.ahraiding.org/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=15

Sendalor wrote:
we already stopped SoF raids and i wanted to badly to do crystallos


Again, read the post.

People want to accomplish everything in the game all at once, but there is limited time in life. We don't have the ability to do SoF, SoD, and UF content all at once.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have no problem myself with the current targets but I figured my question could fit in this thread:

Is there any plan to start doing raids on Monday or Tuesday or Sunday? Maybe more of an organized optional set of raids for those that happen to be around? Nothing to screw up the timers for the scheduled raids, but I'm sure there is some sort of target we could do.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes i read the post on updated targets part the reason why i posted. i know were not doing SoF i just really wanted to do crystallos but i know the loot isnt worth it now still dont change the fact i wanna beat sleeper hehe. and the other kora raids i know were going to try soon i meant the other raids i mentioned ie fos crystal core kith. i think we pretty much got bb and queen down pat to where we could try those instead of bb and queen.

Now that is a pretty nice night of loot for sure but kind of depends on name rate too. Maybe its just me but raiding group content seems weird i dunno either way i just really wanna try these other raids we havent done or tried in a while more so than anything
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sendalor wrote:
i just really wanna try these other raids we havent done or tried in a while more so than anything

As do I, but we are going to take it a bit slow.

Because we are not all Crystallos raid geared, we are underpowered for SoD raid content. In order to get us the gear we need, we are using UF group content and some SoD raid content.

As time goes on, we will spend more and more time on SoD raids, hopefully winning them and not just wiping to see what is involved. Wink

We hit Queen/BB a lot, but a big part of that is the gear is still useful and everyone still needs rank 3 spell drops. It's the easiest way to get those spells.

But as soon as we can add some raids to our agenda that get done, and into farm mode, we can move to those. But our hope is to try 1 new raid each week, not all of them!

Just imagine that this is 1 year ago today, and SoD raiding is new and fresh. We have a long way to go, and there are 20+ different SoD raids to do this year.

http://home.comcast.net/~mathadon/Guides/SoD/RaidList.html

Furthermore, we will, by necessity, be doing less BB/Queen due to our involvement with CoL now. As they will often be running those raids, it means we will most likely try to do raids that they don't have done that week.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would like to see us hitting ome uf raid instances soon
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But not everyone has UF so those w/o will be left behind unfortunately.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I would like to see us hitting ome uf raid instances soon

That's rather unlikely. UF raids are for people who completed all of SoD. They didn't toss in a couple easy ones like BB/Queen raids. It's all very difficult.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Folks, we're moving ahead, slowly but surely.

Now, Wed in UF, Thus with farm targets, Friday with Pallorax (which we've tried/beaten twice), and Sat revamped RR (which we haven't beaten) sounds to me to be a fair schedule.

Remember, we need to gear up to even do the other Korafax raids, much less get into tower.

UF is impossible atm. Fu and RoV are being challenged learning the early raids there.

Keep the faith folks, but going too fast simply hurts morale and hurts attendance.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is not meant for just Sendalor, but for ALL AH folks that can read it.

If you'd like to try your hand at leading a raid, you're more than welcome to. Research the event, form a strat, and contact a SL/Officer. You'll be invited to the leadership channel, one of us will shuffle, another can do taskadds. The ONLY thing you'll have to do is lead, which means learn on the fly, type like a madman, adapt to what happens, etc.

If you'd like to try, by all means, contact one of us. We LOVE to spread the headache around...

I'm not being sarcastic folks, it's a PITA to lead. That said, you wouldn't believe the rush you get after a successful raid.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

elric wrote:
If you'd like to try your hand at leading a raid, you're more than welcome to. Research the event, form a strat, and contact a SL/Officer. You'll be invited to the leadership channel, one of us will shuffle, another can do taskadds. The ONLY thing you'll have to do is lead, which means learn on the fly, type like a madman, adapt to what happens, etc.

If you'd like to try, by all means, contact one of us. We LOVE to spread the headache around...



And just to add to this -

1. Pick a date certain, a Saturday would be best, and tell or PM EvC.

2. Make sure you or somebody you know for sure will be there can trigger the raid.

3. You'll be in charge of strats and leading. The rest of us will handle all the other work (raid window, expedition window, loot, heal channels, rebuff team, etc. etc.)

elric wrote:
I'm not being sarcastic folks, it's a PITA to lead. That said, you wouldn't believe the rush you get after a successful raid.


I have to say that leading and beating Brinda (and doing the passwords for that event) was definately "a rush" for me.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

elric wrote:
Folks, we're moving ahead, slowly but surely.

Now, Wed in UF, Thus with farm targets, Friday with Pallorax (which we've tried/beaten twice), and Sat revamped RR (which we haven't beaten) sounds to me to be a fair schedule.

Remember, we need to gear up to even do the other Korafax raids, much less get into tower.

UF is impossible atm. Fu and RoV are being challenged learning the early raids there.

Keep the faith folks, but going too fast simply hurts morale and hurts attendance.

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We may want to scrap the RR raid and try Crystal core instead. They are now about the same difficulty I think.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm not being sarcastic folks, it's a PITA to lead. That said, you wouldn't believe the rush you get after a successful raid.


Elric


Its almost as good as real good sex and a shot of crystal meth.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SoD: Stop the Ascension
Total Attempts: 51
Latest Raid: 1/21/10

SoD: Temple of Bertoxxulous
Total Attempts: 37
Latest Raid: 1/28/10

SoD: Showdown at the Crystal Core
Total Attempts: 3
Latest Raid: 9/19/09

Bloody Kithicor
Total Attempts: 9
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am with you Sendalor.

I think we need to go back to some events we have tried in the past and failed. Fos1, FoS3, and the Kith event are the ones that come to my mind.

It has been asked in the Rallos poll thread why we should go back and do those. I imagine those who may have completed those missions with their guild or other means are the ones who would not want to go back and do it again. But for those of us who raid exclusively with AH, the reason to go back is pure and simple, revenge. I for one, and I am sure there are others, am not satisifed with trying something a few times and then just giving up because it was "too hard". We have geared up and have more active raiders now, so we have a reasonable chance of winning. We don't necessarily have to put them on farm mode, but win them a few times to erase the bitter taste of defeat and celebrate with our friends and comrades that we have come back and kicked ass.

And I agree with you too Elric... lets not go too fast. I understand that many want to cut straight to Kora/Tower as fast as possible. Others want to slow down and do some of the things that we have tried and failed on before. For revenge and to prove to ourselves that we can do it, as well as possibly learn something in the process.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another reason to do those raids is to build up raid flags for players to do the Old Man McKenzie Classic Vox/Nagafen raids.

From Zam, here is the list of raids that quality for the flags requirement:


Queen Malarian - Hard
Stop the Ascension - Hard
Bloody - Kithicor - Hard
A Council Divided - Hard or Standard
Claiming Felbane - Hard or Standard
Jaled Dar versus Ganak - Hard or Standard

Showdown at the Core - Hard or Standard
Eriak's Downfall - Hard or Standard
Rallos Returns - Hard or Standard
Fall of Toskirakk - Hard or Standard
Venom Lord - Hard or Standard
Mindshear Avatar - Hard or Standard
Pallorax - Hard or Standard
The Mindblight - Hard or Standard
Trophy Room - Hard or Standard
Stasis Room - Hard or Standard
Scrying Room - Hard or Standard
Altar Room - Hard or Standard
Throne Room - Hard or Standard
Edge of Destruction - Hard or Standard
Zek Twins - Hard or Standard

Non-AH raid targets:
Three Sisters
Deadly Swarm
Stalwart Defenders
Astire
AIrrissa
Final Portal
Two Gods
Battle Room
Krond
Brinda
Bargangle
Breakneck
Meldrath
Ice Constructs
Zeixshi Kar
Aerius Windfury
Vyskudra
Keeper of the Stones
Kildrukaun
Halls of Fire
Tjudawos
Brood Mother
Kerafyrm
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am up for try FoS raids and Kithicor, if someone help me with strats i dont have any problem on lead this ones, i wanna revenge too.

I have a main strat in Kithicor raid, but FoS no idea, anyway i need help for lead it.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried Kith with CoL and we got much closer than before the revamp. I think AH can do this one now, we just need to try.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aleax wrote:
I tried Kith with CoL and we got much closer than before the revamp. I think AH can do this one now, we just need to try.


For the people who keep mentioning MM raids, normal Kithicor does NOT count. You must do it on hard mode with 36 to count.
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