Do we have a DKP problem?

Olidan · After Hours Member Joined: Apr 27, 2004 Posts: 703

Just wondering whether or not folks were concerned about the high DKP totals some raiders have. Like Wedndaen is over 100, a handful of us are in the 30s and 40s, several more are 20+, etc........

Just wondering - yes or no - is this a problem? Not looking for suggestions or solutions here - I am just curious if folks think there is a problem that we need to address.
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Lacomb · Newb Joined: May 31, 2004 Posts: 31

I saw something Culd posted just before he disappeared for the last couple of weeks that was a good response and I believe he used me as an example. I've been one of the ones that have researched what I wanted and what I could wait on and scrimped and saved to finally get to a respectable DKP tier. I'm not a squad leader, nothing has been done to inflate my points and I'm not in a large uber raiding guild; my dkp reflects my attendance. I know that those above me have done the same and I don't begrudge anyone having put in their time. Look at how many raids Wen has attended to get there. So imo, No, no problem.

Endiment · Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 10:24 pm Post subject:

imo you earned it. Spend it however you see fit.
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Karrmma · After Hours Member Joined: Nov 03, 2005 Posts: 90

I tend to agree here, I scrimped and saved to get to my meagre tier. I would hope that people wouldnt want to take that away.

Mercenarie · Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 10:20 am Post subject:

Hey, as long as the targets are hit over and over so that I get a chance to win everything I want, I don't see a problem. =)
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Lymantok · After Hours Member Joined: Feb 21, 2006 Posts: 21

I also agree if you attend and dont spend then yuo have earned it. I do however think that we should not just abandon areas that give relatively good loot so that those with high tiers that have gained all that they can get from a particular area. i.e. Time. and then move on never to return. I like going for Anguish, but i also like getting peeps thier epic 1.5s or 2.0s or DON progression.

Divinax · After Hours Member Joined: Feb 25, 2006 Posts: 45

You earned it; it's yours; spend it when and how you want.

I do have a general question, are the points awarded vs loot values supposed to be roughly geared to balance out? Seems that for a target that gives 3 items, worth 5 dkp each, and 40 raiders earning 0.5-0.6 dkp, the system is balanced only if the items are raised in value (15 dkp cashed in vs 20-24 awarded) If the same target was awarded 0.3-0.4 dkp per raider, the balance is restored. This ignores bonus points for first kills, of course. My point is that if the system is unbalanced, overall, with more points awarded than cashed in, in time, people will have inflated dkp balances (especially those with greater attendence). This should be somewhat self-correcting as people with fat balances bid up items and begin to restore the balance.

I'm not saying that the system should or should not be balanced. I'm just curious what the guiding principles are for setting award values for different targets

Olidan · After Hours Member Joined: Apr 27, 2004 Posts: 703

Ghraa · Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 7:35 am Post subject:

Krisstoff · Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 5:24 pm Post subject:

The only problem I had with our DKP system was when points weren't awarded for failed attempts on new encounters (T`Shara comes to mind). This seems to have been fixed though:

Mercenarie · Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 9:18 am Post subject:

Southpaw · After Hours Member Joined: Jun 18, 2006 Posts: 59

one thing that i have encountered from a Raiding guild a while back was that if items were better meant for one class then it would be preferred to that class first ( mebers) then open to all if none want. im still trying to re adjust to DKP as i havent been in that guild in about 3 years mabye. but i think that AH DKP system is Fair , you raid you get credit and eventually items. Its pretty simple , raid > bank points> get item you can use. and works best if you try to plan out what to buy as mentioned above somewhere

Example on itmes oing to classes that could use it ....

Ton Po's Mystical pouch from rallos .... it would be more suited for rogues / monks first as they both use fairly frequently ( pulling ( monks) / possibly best throwing item for ranged dps for rogue's for a few expansions)

Torar

Zenshiss · After Hours Member Joined: Jul 18, 2006 Posts: 57

Ardnasc · Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 10:22 am Post subject:

Ok, Ok - being equipment analysis challenged (mostly because I'd rather play the game then look stuff up!) I will try to take the time this week to update my magelo. Then those of you who have been playing like forever can give me suggestions on what items to wait for in Anguish and what to try to replace now. Then I to can stop spending so much dkp and gain insanely high tiers! Laughing

Actually I think it is a bit of a good sign that several of those that come to every raid because they like to raid have very high tiers. To me it means that we seldom hit a mob that drops upgrades for them and that the drops we do get are steadily gearing up folks in the lower tiers. Very Happy

So we get the fun of going after mobs that are a challenge now and can look forward to yet more challenging content as our raid force improves.

Have Fun!
Ardnasc

Mercenarie · Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 2:46 pm Post subject: