[Suegar]

I remember mentioning this the other day in raid chat. We seriously cant have people sending tells to the raid leader whenever they have a percieved issue in raid. We do have a very good number of officers and squad leaders, you can take issues up mid raid with them. Being in a brand spanking new to us raid zone is stressful enough already, please lets work to not make it any moreso.

[Sulsil]

I cannot agree more. I must also admit I am an offender at times myself. Bottom line if you think you have something to say about the conduct of the raid say so in AH Raid and if you get nothing and you feel it's SUPER important tell your Squad Leader so they can pass it on.

Countless tells specially of the "Don't forget we gotta do XXX next!" when you are about to do so are fairly exhausting to deal with.

And as long as we are on the topic of making the Raid Leaders life easier, please keep your requests for "Billy must be in my group" or "Oh please don't group me with Bobby" to the absolute minimum. Groups are tiresome enough as it is to get balanced for each encounter much less adding the layer of making players happy with their groupmates. Please be professional about the raid at hand and get the job done.

Sulsil

[Culdahl]

Here's how the process works: We get strats from various sources and discuss on the officer forums. We then take any information we can get from our members and discuss (in real time) in the AH officer channel. So, if you have suggestions about a certain target, tell your SL and said SL we relay that information to the officer channel for all the SLs (including the RL) to discuss.

As for complaints: NEVER, EVER send the RL tells about your problems. Tell your SL (or class leader) and have them deal with the issue. If your problem is not resolved by your SL, try a different one (feel free to contact me...if I'm not leading). If you STILL feel your problems are not being addressed then send a tell to the RL AFTER the raid or send a PM via this forum.

One of the reasons I took off for a bit (outside of RL issues) was that I got overwhelmed with the whole raid leading thing....believe me, it can be VERY stressful even when things go smoothly and that's without everyone, and their mother, sending you tells bitching about one thing or another.

[Olidan]

Generally agree with all.

I do not mind the tells themselves, really, so long as you are not looking for a reply.

Generally I get suggestions sometimes as I am doing strats or talking to the SL's. Many times they are useful and I act on them, though that is not always obvious to whoever sent the tell.

It's the *Did you get my tell?* or the *???* follow up tells that I really cannot stand.
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[Ladile]

For what it's worth, feel free to send comments my way - if I'm not handling healing, I'll be happy to lend an ear

[Sorcier]

Bump ... (let's see who actually reads the forums lol)

I mean seriously if someones intent is to slow down our raiding then we will have no choice but to remove them from the raid and if it continues they will be removed from After Hours.

The purpose is to raid and have fun and not to argue about everything under the sun. Let's stop the arguing and I mean NOW! It's okay to discuss something in a calm manner but personal attacks, making threats and continually causing disruptions can not and will not be tolerated.

One more thing while I'm at it. The forum conduct rules found at http://www.ahraiding.org/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=6 apply to the in game chat channels as well. Especially the one about "No personal attacks, flames or abuse." You will be asked to stop and if you do not stop then you will be removed from After Hours. Let's all have fun and keep the negativity out of After Hours please.
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[Acoma]

[Elrico]

:pulls a Darby....

/looks confused

Is this what was taking us so long in Rottrued the other night?

[elric]

Folks, to reiterate what was said in this necro'd thread, PLEASE use your SL first, ahraid second, another SL third, and only /tell the RL if the raid will fail. This means none of our current targets need a tell to the RL.

I know you mean well, but it DOES slow down the ENTIRE raid sending a tell.

Tells are the reason I'm bald, and wear a pink hat.

[Sorcier]