Group construction

Aergon · Squad Leader Joined: Dec 30, 2007 Posts: 505

I think 1 or 2 pally with aurora spell on MT group is a nice plus because:

1. No recast timer

2. Spell of 3secs(with gear and cleric spell haste 2.1 secs)

3. the Spell only wasted mana when heals are needed (0 mana used if i cast and noone on group need heal), this caracteristic let me cast chain spell when we fighting nameds

4. at least mine is 13,3k heal for group but if only 1 ppl on group needed all power of the heal focus on him, then is single 13,3k heal each 2.1 sec on MT , my spell is lvl80 yet, dont have lvl 85

I think this trick can help us with hitting nameds, for make smooth fights, less trouble with patch heals and etc.

elric · Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 1:55 am Post subject:

Nerf Aergon!! He's like #10 on the server hp wise, atm....

Seriously, he has a point, Pallies have killer group heals now.

Prettything · Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 2:22 am Post subject:

on long or low mana fights necros with mt cleric.. the drain mana from mob and give it to group ability is very nice... it helped alot in fc2 beasties are nice but they dont need to be in gorup, just nearby
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Wimpel · After Hours Member Joined: Jun 24, 2007 Posts: 52

shammy epic, zerker epic and aura, vahlaura and her crazy songs, ranger AUSPICE, as well as my epic, theif's eye and pinpoint + whatever discs I use (RF + FS) + BP clickie and leopard's paw then assassin's after that runs out = best dps ever....EVER

Still cant beat kin though Confused

Wwein · Officer Joined: Jun 18, 2006 Posts: 2480 Location: Texas

When I can I often put a pally per group as a form of backup healer, though I hadn't considered the aurora. And when we're a healer short, a 6-pally group is great too. For those pallies in those groups, is 6 more than enough and do you tend to nominate a pally to tank witht he rest healing them, or all approach it as if you were soloing?

For necros I mostly let them twitch out of group, since I think the mana stealing spells require the mob to have mana, and mobs tend to have a few hundred at the most. Is this true, esp of bosses? I like beasties in MT group too, partly for group para but also because they can See the main healer's mana and know just when to send a focused para.

Finally, ranger epic is self only Sad

. However we have three AAs which boost group DPS:
Auspice of the Hunter
Group Guardian of the Forest
Third Spire of the Pathfinders
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Endiment · Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 3:07 pm Post subject:

Auroria Mastery + Twincast Aura + Mana Reiterate Aura + Wizards = win
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Aergon · Squad Leader Joined: Dec 30, 2007 Posts: 505

) thanks Elric, this week i was in costa rica and off from EQ, but i am on tomorrow again for raids.

elric · Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 12:35 am Post subject:

Double nerf Aergon, he's having way too much fun... Laughing

Aleax · Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 8:16 am Post subject:

How weird, My mother and Aunt are in Costa Rica right now... Did you run into two VERY tourist looking women in their 50's?
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Wwein · Officer Joined: Jun 18, 2006 Posts: 2480 Location: Texas

On Aergon's request I put him with the tank group for fabled earth last night. When endi linked the heal parse in the officer channel, Aergon had a rediculously huge amount of heals (if you still have that, please post it endi!). How does it work exactly?
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Aergon · Squad Leader Joined: Dec 30, 2007 Posts: 505

Aleax jeje i was in Occidental Hotel for 6 days, maybe i saw her Smile

Aergon · Squad Leader Joined: Dec 30, 2007 Posts: 505

Aurora of Morrow is mana consuming but can help to keep MT for short periods, i am proud then if i did well jeje ).

With 2 pally on aurora duty on MT group maybe is better because we can cast chain aurora and only burn mana when heal is needed, 2 pally in group i think helps to keep pally with more mana

Wwein · Officer Joined: Jun 18, 2006 Posts: 2480 Location: Texas

I like putting elg and endi in the same MT group for recovery - if one dies, the other can jump in with the full benefits of the group. A cleric is obviously a must, and 2 is a bonus since they can both see eachother's mana bars, can both do their DArb AA and epic clicks. That leaves two spots free. Prime candidates for those two spots are a bard for AC song, pally for the aurora, and beasts to para group when mana is low. So long as there's good communication in the healer channel, beast is the last choice since para can be done out of group. Really then the debate is between two pallies or a pally and bard.
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Wimpel · After Hours Member Joined: Jun 24, 2007 Posts: 52

also helps if a cleric in there group has hp aura

Endiment · Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 3:28 pm Post subject:

Only thing I don't like about having 2 warriors in the same group is that our aura is a pain in the ass. If the MT has his up, then dies, the ST is SoL until the MT is rezzed and can recast.

Sony just needs to make it instant cast to fix it, but they'll never do that Mad

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Wwein · Officer Joined: Jun 18, 2006 Posts: 2480 Location: Texas

We've been getting more healers arrive thankfully, so it's becoming practical for us to divide you and elg up and give you your own set of healers, pallies, bards etc.
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Kalakob · Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 12:36 pm Post subject:

for 2 warriors in the group simple solution is have the ST use aura not the MT... for Optimal tanking I always figured bard and monk (for aura) was ideal. At least to maximize abilities on the getting hit side of things.

Realistically healers need to be watching whatever tank is getting hit so the biggest benefit to more healers in the tank group is Divine Arbs and such.

I tend to agree regarding paragon, just as well done outside of group. About pallies, you speak of things I don't have much current experiance with.

For necromancers, having that group mana tap can mean the difference between OOM at the end of the fight and wipe in some situations. If there is ever a time when it seems fitting... An interesting group setup for heals can be enchanter (for auras mana pool/regen), necro (for the tap) and either 3 healers and a bard or 4 healers. I suppose that would work as well or similarly with DPS types though. for long enough fights...

I have no idea what, if any struggle going OOM during fights is for DPS

just some stuff to ponder.

kebekak · After Hours Member Joined: Nov 25, 2008 Posts: 122

More than one necro in a group is almost a waste of that group mana tap. I like to have the baby clerics in my group since their mana pool may be smaller. i'll cycle the group mana tap whiel twitching others .. find its more effective.